Life Challenges Anna Quigley

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Welcome to the Internal Shift Show. I'm Debbie

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Longo, Transformational Coach. This show looks

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at how the internal choices we make influence

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the direction our lives and work take. Today's

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conversation brings real experience into that

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space, exploring how internal shifts quietly

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change outcomes over time. We have a very special

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guest today, Anna Quigley, Transformational Coach.

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Good afternoon, Anna. Welcome to the show. Thank

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you, Debbie. It's a pleasure to be here. Thank

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you for being here. I would just like to ask

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you to describe your story and anything that

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happened to you in the past. Any traumatic experience

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or any type of negative event or anything like

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that. And then just explain how you got over

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the hump and the process that that happened,

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how that happened. And then what is the positive

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out of that? What is the positive outcome? Now,

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the goal here is to have the listener identify,

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but also show and explain that this can happen.

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I can go from a negative to a positive. I don't

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have to sit in whatever negative situation it

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is or maybe I'm upset or maybe mad all the time,

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whatever the situation is. I don't have to sit

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in that negativity. There's always, always, always

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a way out. So if you could explain that to me,

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I would appreciate it. Thank you. Well, thank

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you because you're absolutely right. There always,

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always, always is a way out. And the way is built

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into us. I believe that the tools are external,

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but the direction and the guidance is already

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with us when we get to these major transitions.

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And I'll share a particularly challenging one.

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My life's been, I joke, it's been sort of a roller

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coaster compared to like my brother's escalator.

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It's been a little wild ride, but a lot of wonderful

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lessons. I had dreamt of this perfect life and

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created it in my life. I had a job that I really

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loved. I was living where I wanted to live, the

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house that I'd wanted, friends and people around.

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I just, I was loving it. And slowly and subtly,

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I really was picking up some signs, but I wasn't

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really paying attention. The job was kind of

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getting not great, and the industry changes,

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and there were just a lot of weird dynamics that

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were going on. But I loved the job, I loved where

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I was, everything was good, so I wasn't going

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to rock the boat. But there were things that

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were happening in my life that were like, okay,

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something's not right here. The house that I

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had bought, I was warned not to buy it, but I

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did anyway, because it was my dream house. And

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I ignored that, which in retrospect, I don't

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know, should I have what I have? It would have

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been a different story. But these were all little

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signs that were popping up, kind of leading to

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this implosion, really, is what I think of it.

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In a matter of a very short period of time, this

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perfect life that I had created imploded. It

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just, it fell apart. The career, the job just,

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it was with virtually no notice. It was getting

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stressful and I had decided I'm working on my

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house. I'm going to redo the kitchen. I need

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time. I took a couple of weeks off. My boss took

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that as, well, you're looking for another job.

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So I'm going to move you out of that position.

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At the same time, I ended up in a legal dispute

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with co -owner of my building. So I'm out of

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a job. I'm dealing with lawyers. I'm in tears

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just this period of time. I spent not a huge

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amount of time, but of course, naturally, I went

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into the what's going on, what's happening here

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and why is this happening? This isn't what I

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dreamt of. This isn't what I planned. This isn't

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what, you know, I chose. But yet this was what

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was showing up. And I realized that the question

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wasn't why or what did I do or why did this happen?

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The question was, what's next? Because there

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were Those moments of things that were showing

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up in my life the universe kind of saying it's

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time to make a change this you need to be moving

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and going someplace else doing something else

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and i wasn't listening. I wasn't listening that's

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so often the case so in this chaos i'm looking

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at i gotta get a lawyer i have to find a job

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i have to do all of this my mo method is always

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to get myself center to get into nature to get.

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give myself some quiet space. And I highly suggest

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this for everyone. When they're in those moments

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of crisis, find some time, steal some time to

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be alone, to be quiet so that you can hear the

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inner guidance that we all have helping us. And

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I literally said out loud, I just need to go

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sit on the top of the mountain and meditate that

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for me worked and there happened to be local

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mountains. Well, within a Day and a half, my

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cousin called and she said, I'm going to India

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to an ashram. You want to come? Well, the ashram

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happened to be on top of a mountain. I thought,

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OK, signs don't get clear. No, it's like, OK,

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I said this is exactly what I wanted. I hadn't

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planned on India, but I like, OK, if you don't

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pay attention to this one, you're really going

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to end up down the rabbit hole. So I took a big

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deep breath and a leap of faith. And I took off

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and I went to India and ended up not being on

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top of a mountain. But that's another there was

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another issue there. But it was an amazing time.

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And I got clarity. I never get all the answers.

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I don't think any of us do. Yes, I'd like to

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know this is going to happen and then this and

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this and this. But we don't. I get. what I call

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three feet in front of me, okay? I know what

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the next few steps are. And then it's an act

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of faith. It's like, all right, I trust my instincts.

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I trust my intuition. I trust what I know when

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I'm literally listening to these little pieces

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that were calling to me. And I came back with

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clarity, surprisingly, that it was time for me

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to move. But it was so clear and so strong. I

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thought, okay, this is it. So again, I spent

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some time. I still had to deal with the lawyers

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and got that resolved. I sold my house and I

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moved out of state because that's where I was

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feeling called. That's where I was really feeling

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was the next step. Now this all, not ironically,

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happened just as I was hitting midlife. And that's

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so often the case. Midlife's a natural transition

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time for us because usually by then, you've done

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the family or you've done the career, you've

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built the career, the education, all of that.

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And you can be extremely successful. And I was

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happy. But all of a sudden, it's like there's

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an opening. It's a natural pause that we get

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to reassess. And it's like, I joke, it's like

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halftime at a football game. What worked? What

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didn't work? We're not going to do that play

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again because that one wasn't moving us in the

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direction that we want. So it's about, it is

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about what's next and what that step is. So I

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took, I took a leap of faith and moved up to

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Washington state. And I'm in this, I got the

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house that I had envisioned and I'm up there

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going, okay, God, now what's next? I'm here,

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what are the next three feet? What's next with

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that? And that was my next project was listening.

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And what did I feel like I needed to do? And

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I went within one of the tools that I like to

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teach and I share with clients and workshops

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is when you're not clear, the first step, well,

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two early things to do if you're not clear. is

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find that quiet time, some space, even if you're

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five minutes in your car before you go in to

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take care of the kids or feed the family or whatever,

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find some moments of silence that you can start

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to listen. Nature is great. I got the power of

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the shower. Just float in a tub or go to the

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ocean, water, there's calming. And what we're

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doing is we're tuning out that noise. the chaos

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and all of them to do's to find that space and

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then also talk to your friends and your family

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because every single one of us has a unique purpose

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that we were born with. Gifts that we have that

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other people may have one or two of them but

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nobody has the exact same combination of gifts

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that we have and that's what we're here to use.

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And when we're not, and I really in retrospect

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know that I wasn't fully using the gifts that

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I had before this implosion, and I was being

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guided to use them, to use them more. So I think

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we've all had the situation where a friend or

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a family member will come up and go, oh, Debbie,

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I would give anything if I could do what you

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do. How do you do that? It's amazing. and you

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if you're like most of us just go yeah thank

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you nice it's just something that i do you know

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it's just something we dismiss it we disavow

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these things that are our gifts to give and that's

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what i did i had friends a couple of friends

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and family and say oh you're so good at accessorizing

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and doing your house and jewelry. And I'm like,

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thank you. Really sweet of you. Thank you. But

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I really kind of dismissed it because I think

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all of us have had the situation where a friend

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or a family member or someone comes up to you

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and says, Debbie, oh my gosh, how do you do that?

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I would give anything if I could do what you

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do. And we naturally kind of go, thank you. But

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what are you talking about? It's just something

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I do. It's like, It's not a big deal because

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it's so natural for us. We dismiss it. We disavow

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it. We just don't think it's really of importance.

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And yet others go, wow, that's just amazing.

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I would love to know how to do that. Those are

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huge, huge clues and keys to finding our purpose.

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and to being able to figure out what that next

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step is. So when I moved out of state, I did

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that. I started asking and I got clear on with

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my silence time. All right, what am I good at?

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What have I learned in all of these years? What

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skills do I have? How can I create this next

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situation? And taking the information, I decided

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I was going to start an import business. And

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I had just been to India and I thought, oh, yeah,

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I love handmade goods and whatnot. So I'm going

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to try that. But I didn't know what I was going

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to import. So I just kind of let's go. Well,

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it took about three days. And I realized every

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store, every stall, every street vendor that

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was selling jewelry and handbags and scarves

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and decorative accessories, I would just like,

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I mean, I just rushed to them. And I finally

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realized this is how these pieces fit together.

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This is part of the puzzle. These things that

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innately I'm interested in that I like being

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around, like working with, I can do that and

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incorporate those into the business. And that's

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what I ended up doing. Interesting. That was

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very good so far. Thank you. Well, the first

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question I have is how did you know to do these

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things? Did you get professional help or you

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read self -help books? I know you mentioned a

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few ways, but I'm curious to know what was your

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thinking? What was your thought process and how

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did you know or if you even knew or what clue

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it was that told you you wanted to really change

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and really do this and turn the negative into

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a positive. And well, you explain the process,

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but what was really your thought pattern? That's

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what I'm trying to ask. Well, from the time I

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was in college, really, I had what they in this

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is actually now a medical term, purpose anxiety

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out of college. I think it's natural to us. OK,

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what am I going to do for a career? But. What's

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interesting is that around midlife, we have that

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same openness where we're satisfied, but there's

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still something more. But we go through the anxiety

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of, oh, well, maybe it's too late. I'm 50. I'm

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60. I'm, well, it's probably too late. And where

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do I even begin to do this? And through those

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years from when I started probably in my 20s,

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I started studying spiritual, all kinds of different

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religions and metaphysics. I was the yoga and

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meditation, but meditation's been a key for me.

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That silence, that quiet time, it has opened

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myself up to learn to recognize my intuition.

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And that's never failed me. When you can differentiate

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between the rational mind kind of saying, yeah,

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yeah, yeah, you need to do this. and that quiet

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inner voice. And it's sometimes a voice that

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comes through every one of our senses. It's that

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little whisper or a yell if you're moving into

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an intersection and a car is cutting across the

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other way. I think we've all had that where it's

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like, stop, wait, and you don't know why. But

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it can be repetitive signs that you see when

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you're not sure what's next. Where do I go? And

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for me, when I was leaving California and going

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up to the Northwest, It was just a lot of images

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and feelings and pictures that were showing up

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about the Northwest and that I wanted the trees

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and all of that more nature. And I was like,

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OK, that that was some of the guidance to paying

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attention to these intuitive clues. It's the

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same if two or three people tell me about a book

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or a movie within a short period of time. I make

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note because there's something in there for me.

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I'm not it could be 20 people would hear that

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same series of information, but doesn't resonate

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for them because it's not coming from through

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from or for their intuition from their intuition.

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So that that's been that's really been key. And

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I've learned to pay attention to it. And I tested

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it early on because I'm like, I don't know, it's

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this intuition thing. Really? I tested it and

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I have had some really funny experiences and

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listening to it and one I didn't. And it's never

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been wrong for me. It has never been wrong. So

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the more I've gotten to work with it, the more

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faith I've had in that. So that when I got to

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that what's next, it made it a little easier

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for me to have that trust and to take that leap

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of faith. I recognize these signs because I've

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practiced. And you can't, it's a skill. You can

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get better at recognizing that. voice, those

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signals. Yeah, that was good. Thank you. So it's

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a combination basically of self -help. And also

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to me, a lot of things that you were just explaining

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about the intuition, I call it sixth sense or

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what's, what's my gut feeling, things like that.

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But to me, that is more of an internal gift.

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So now here's the thing. So the first thing that

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I wanted to mention is that when you came out

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of the other side, right? Like you said, you

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had the anxiety and stuff. These types of things,

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like I was explaining before, not everybody to

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people have these things, but not everybody knows

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how to get to them. So I want to explain like

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we were talking, the person story, blah, blah,

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blah. But people that don't know, like I teach

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this stuff. I teach all these things, praying

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and meditating if they want, but intuition, because

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everybody has a different version of these types

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of things that you're explaining, negative and

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positive, inside of them. But that depends on

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whether they wanna... look at it, whether they

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have the willingness, whether they think that

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that's going to work for them. My mother was

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very psychic all of her life, literally really

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psychic, and she hated it. She just kept shutting

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it off and shutting it off and shutting it off

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her whole entire life. And she did would have

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done like she would have been like like really

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successful at it. She would have been like a

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world speaker or something for it. I'm telling

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it was amazing, but she just didn't want the

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gift. She just kept pushing it away because whatever

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reason. And I didn't say anything. I have gifts

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like that too, and I wanna advance them and stuff.

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But the point is that all of these things that

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we go through, and I have a similar story with

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different examples, obviously. and all these

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things that we go through, there is an internal

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solution. It's not external. There is a solution

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and a way and a process and everything that's

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already inside of us. So now, if I want to focus

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on that thing, whatever that thing is, the situation

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or whatever, then I want to say, I want to tune

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in to that. Focus on the thing obviously because

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that's what I can identify with and I want to

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say to myself is This something that I want to

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change now you were talking about what's three

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steps ahead of me So another thing I teach is

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not to predict the future. I want to be so this

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is a difference I want to be able to be in tune

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with my inner self or or gut feeling, whatever

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you want to call it. But I don't want to be a

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person that's predicting the future unless I'm

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experienced like a psychic or something like

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that. But I'm talking about a normal person because

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for me, when I do that, the future and the projection

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is always negative. And nine times out of ten,

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it doesn't come true. But if I don't do that

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and I say, what's three steps ahead of me? OK,

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and I don't know, I don't look farther than that.

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Right. Then, number one, that's a good way for

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me to gain spirituality, which is a lot of connected

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to a lot of things that we're talking about here.

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Because I'm letting it go. I'm not in control

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of like, I don't know my future. You know what

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I mean? I'm not a psychic. And even if I was,

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I still wouldn't know everything. It's impossible.

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And I might not even get it right. So this doesn't

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work the way that a lot of people think that

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it works. There's a lot of people think this.

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I help a lot of people with this. There's tons

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of people that think like. They know their future

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and they could know what's going on, what's going

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to happen like five years from now, and they're

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like completely sure. And this is all stuff that

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will get us stuck in negativity. We doesn't happen.

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And then we say, oh, I'm a failure. It didn't

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happen. I want it. And then they want to control

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it. I want to do this even two weeks from now.

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I want to do this. Oh, it didn't happen. Oh,

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now I'm a failure. It's not going to happen.

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Nothing's ever going to happen in my life. And

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I'm never going to accomplish anything. And that's

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going to be the end of it. You want to know how

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many people I helped like that a lot. Oh, but

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I want to add another level to that, because

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no, we cannot predict. We cannot say, well, I'm

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going to do this. Absolutely. Blah, blah, blah.

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However, this is the caveat. Our brains are wired

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to respond to our thoughts, our thoughts. We've

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heard that we know the power of that. There is

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a major difference between saying, well, OK,

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here's in my rational mind, I want to do this

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and I want to be. Five years. I want to be vice

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president of the company and I'm gonna do I'm

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working hard toward that Well, good luck with

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that because universe has other plans for you

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and your path unfolds in different ways. However

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positioning Envisioning and it's sensory imagination.

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It is every sense again back to those five in

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the senses that we use to recognize our intuition.

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If you envision an outcome, not the steps, you

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cannot say this, these are the steps, this is

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gonna happen, then I'm gonna go here, then I'm

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gonna go there. But if you can envision the life

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where you want to be as if you already have it,

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then you're literally, this is neuroscience,

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it is. proven, our brain doesn't know the difference

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between what is reality and what we envision.

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But it's not telling what we're going to do or

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are saying, here's what we're going to do. And

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you don't even have to know how you get there.

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That's what is so cool. But if you can envision

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your life a year from now or three years, five

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years from now, whatever. and feel it. Who are

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you around? How are you living? Are you living

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with ease? But not the details, not the specifics

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of the how, but yes, I want to be a life coach.

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like you're doing, and I'll be helping, envision

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helping people or envision doing that. But that's

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the difference. You can't tell the universe how

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things are going to happen and the steps that

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are going to take. We have no control over that.

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Yes, we have to act on it. That's our power.

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We take action on the guidance that we get, those

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inner ideas, and we hold that vision of where

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we want to be. But the steps in between, it's

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three steps. You see those three steps, you take

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action on them, and then you open up for the

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guidance to take you the next three steps. So

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what you're what you're saying to me, the way

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that I teach it is called manifesting. So there's

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a lot of there's a vision board to make a vision

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board. I can do praying, meditating. I could

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do I call it creating a knowing where I just

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know. And then I repeat. The same thing. I want

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to have a house. I want to have a house. So a

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hundred times a day. I'm just repeating that

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over and over the key. I'm sorry. And that's

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up because the key with language words are so

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powerful. It's I have a house. I have my in the

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now. Right. So if you're living it now, I want

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always. And this is really it's because a lot

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of people do that. I want this. I want a husband.

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I want a relationship. I want a job. I want to

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I want. always keeps it in front of you. It always

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keeps it separate. The I have, you're owning

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it and your brain's responding. It's like, oh,

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I've got to get busy and create the opportunity.

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Yeah, you're right about that. So if I'm looking

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for a job and I go on and I say I have a job,

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I have a job, even though I don't have a job,

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I don't have a job because I'm looking for a

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job. And then I would say I have a job, I have

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a job. But the place who I'm working with and

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am I working in an office? Am I working in a

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warehouse? Am I working? in out in the field

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and how does it feel and how do you know how

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all of that. Yeah. Yeah. But the point I'm trying

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to make is that I teach that I don't know anything

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about the future. Now, I do teach the manifesting.

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Like we're saying, I have a job, I have a house.

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But it depends on what the person wants, what

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their thought processes, how they want to do

00:24:49.690 --> 00:24:53.029
their coaching. Because I ask them, what is your

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goal? What do you want out of this? Why are you

00:24:54.990 --> 00:24:57.930
coming to me? Why do you want coaching? What's

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happening in your past? What's your story? Blah,

00:25:00.069 --> 00:25:02.650
blah, blah. And I have surveys and questions

00:25:02.650 --> 00:25:05.589
and all kinds of things. But the point is that

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depends. I have to conform to what the person

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wants. Now they're. wants or desires or whatever

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might change. But most of the time, the way that

00:25:15.299 --> 00:25:19.740
I teach it is I don't know anything. I don't

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manifest anything. I don't put myself in a place.

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I don't know anything. I come with a blank slate

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and that's a one day at a time. But there are

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people like example executives and they have

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to make goals. They have no choice because that's

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the way their business runs. And if they don't

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make goals and they don't set the goals and the

00:25:43.880 --> 00:25:46.460
employees and stuff don't make them, then their

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business is going to fail. Bottom line. So they

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have to form their thinking in a way where they

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say manifesting and making goals and doing that

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all in the positive. So you know what I mean?

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So it depends on. the person and really what

00:26:03.950 --> 00:26:05.990
they want to do. Sometimes they have experience

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in that already. I don't know. There's a lot

00:26:07.730 --> 00:26:10.569
of situations, but if it's a blank, if it's a

00:26:10.569 --> 00:26:13.289
person that that doesn't know anything and wants

00:26:13.289 --> 00:26:16.609
to learn and different things, I teach nine times

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out of 10 that three steps ahead and fine, you

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know, but I don't normally go beyond that because

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I don't have any expectation. I don't know what's

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going to happen. I don't have any. If I am in

00:26:28.730 --> 00:26:31.210
a marriage or relationship, I don't know what's

00:26:31.210 --> 00:26:32.990
going to happen in this relationship. It was

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bad in the past. That's why I'm getting coaching,

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but I don't know what's going to happen. I have

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no expectation and I'll never fail that way.

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But there's always the element of action that

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needs to be taken. And it could be one step.

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The journey of a thousand miles begins with a

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step. Whatever that changes, because nothing

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ever changes without action. It's inertia. You'll

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keep going in the same direction until you change

00:27:01.220 --> 00:27:04.339
that. And that's where action comes in, whatever

00:27:04.339 --> 00:27:07.119
that looks like. And that could be meditating,

00:27:07.359 --> 00:27:09.119
that could be journaling, it could be doing the

00:27:09.119 --> 00:27:11.460
vision. And you're not projecting, you're saying

00:27:11.460 --> 00:27:14.640
this is how it has to happen. So I agree with

00:27:14.640 --> 00:27:16.680
you completely on that. It's like we don't get

00:27:16.680 --> 00:27:20.420
to say the how. Right. But for goals, like you

00:27:20.420 --> 00:27:22.519
said, the executives, yes, they have to have

00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:27.559
the rational plan as well. But Even some of the

00:27:27.559 --> 00:27:30.700
examples and research that I've done shows that

00:27:30.700 --> 00:27:34.559
really successful CEOs of companies, the majority

00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:38.319
of them when faced with a complex decision. Yes,

00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:41.720
they deal with the facts and the details and

00:27:41.720 --> 00:27:45.000
all of that, their goals, those tangible things.

00:27:45.380 --> 00:27:48.380
But the final decision, they rely on that intuition.

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They rely on that wisdom, that built up experience

00:27:51.619 --> 00:27:54.539
and the inner wisdom to make the final decision.

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Where newer CEOs, KPMG did a survey and they

00:27:59.039 --> 00:28:01.660
don't as much. They haven't learned how to blend

00:28:01.660 --> 00:28:05.000
those two, which is just so powerful. So that

00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:08.059
was good. So the last question is, How do you

00:28:08.059 --> 00:28:12.480
feel today based on everything that's happened

00:28:12.480 --> 00:28:16.279
and the result? How do you feel right this second?

00:28:16.519 --> 00:28:19.339
I feel so I'll start crying. I feel so blessed.

00:28:20.119 --> 00:28:26.619
I, I truly do. It's been well, I am living my

00:28:26.619 --> 00:28:31.339
purpose, which is what I was in tears about when

00:28:31.339 --> 00:28:33.980
I was 20 something going. What is it? I know

00:28:33.980 --> 00:28:36.460
there's something and it has been popping up.

00:28:36.490 --> 00:28:39.109
Various times throughout my life opportunities.

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I've had to make a living so we have to make

00:28:41.789 --> 00:28:45.410
choices I have to do this because I have to make

00:28:45.410 --> 00:28:47.269
a living you have to you know, we live on this

00:28:47.269 --> 00:28:50.690
planet and it's human form but it's been coming

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up and coming up and there have been moments

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when I've been able to really focus on this more

00:28:55.650 --> 00:28:58.269
and a couple years ago I made a decision and

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stepped away from another toxic situation one

00:29:01.390 --> 00:29:05.420
that was not I learned to listen when things

00:29:05.420 --> 00:29:07.859
are not working well. And it's like, okay, I'm

00:29:07.859 --> 00:29:12.079
being guided. This is, I call it, it's not a

00:29:12.079 --> 00:29:14.420
midlife crisis that we go through. It's a midlife

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calling. It's like, hey, over here, these are

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your gifts. Pay attention. And I just, I'm living

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a leap of faith, an act of faith in doing this.

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But I also know I have the confidence and faith

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that this is what I'm here for. These are the

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gifts that I've been given. that I was born with

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and that I'm using those. And as long as I continue

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to do this, I just feel just totally blessed.

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Yeah, that was a very good closing. Thank you.

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So as we wrap up this conversation, highlights

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how small internal shifts can create meaningful

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change. If something from today stayed with you,

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take a moment to reflect on how it connects to

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your own direction and decisions. This has been

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the Internal Shift Show. Thank you for listening.

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Thank you, Anna, for being on the show. I appreciate

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it. My pleasure. Thanks, Debbie.